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1 How good/bad is this laptop? on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:35 pm

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I was wondering if this laptop is good or bad.
It's gonna replace my old, broken one.

intel Core i5-460M processor
4 GB RAM & 500 GB Harddisk
15,6" HD LED screen
nVidia GeForce GT 415M graphic card with 1 GB RAM




(Dunno if this goes here or technical support)



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2 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:32 am

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Well, 4GB of RAM is pretty good. Mine has that and is was one of the highest amounts you could get on a normal sales laptop a year ago. I don't think you would really need much more than that.

500GB hard drive is plenty, Worst comes to worst you could get an external hard drive if you were that short of space.

15.6" screen size is pretty good. All laptops have LED and HD nowadays so that's pretty much standard.

Regarding your NVidia GeForce, I think it is pretty good, I would link you to the Graphics Card Comparison thread that was on the RuneScape Forums but I can't seem to locate it.

3 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:06 am

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Okay. I was just wondering about the processor and the graphic card Tongue



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4 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:38 am

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Fidde wrote:
...15,6" HD LED skærm
...nVidia GeForce GT 415M grafikkort with 1 GB RAM


lol



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5 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:32 am

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What's so funny? Is it the danish i forgot to translate?



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6 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:53 pm

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i5's are good dual cores, I like the 460M personally, I think it is clocked at like 2.5GHz? If that's right then it definitely hauls.

What is the RAM's clock speed? Higher will yield better performance in gaming.

Is the HDD 5400rpm or 7200rpm? Is there a cheap option for SSD, maybe a 60GB SSD, this would speed up boot times and save battery life. (only do this if you have external storage drives handy as disk space will be very limited.)

The discrete graphics with 1GB of RAM is good. You will have no problem with a lot of games. GT 415M has good reviews from what I have read. It supports DX11 so you will be set for a while with new releases as well.

Also LED is a good feature. The colors will be rich while maintaining good battery life.

One thing to also note...how many cells does the Battery have? If there is an upgrade available I recommend getting it.

Hope this helps.

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7 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:12 pm

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Fidde wrote:What's so funny? Is it the danish i forgot to translate?

yes Laughing



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8 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:58 pm

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Tried to find some info, but i failed >.<



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9 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:22 am

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Have a link I could check out?

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10 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:29 am

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Nope, sorry.



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11 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:09 am

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Well it looks good regardless of my questions, they are just nice things to know. The last big question would be, what do you plan on doing with it? Hardcore graphical gaming is probably not an option, but RS, Counter-Strike, even Starcraft 2 are definitely possible with ease.

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12 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:17 pm

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Video card only has 1GB of RAM so unless you're not planning on playing games other than browser games, I'd suggest something with a bit more.

Other than that, it's not that bad

13 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:02 pm

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Squ1d Nuts wrote:Video card only has 1GB of RAM so unless you're not planning on playing games other than browser games, I'd suggest something with a bit more.

Other than that, it's not that bad

Actually 1GB RAM on a graphics card is very good. An example of this is the Radeon 5850's, I run two of these in crossfire and it was top of the line roughly 6 months ago.

That 1GB is over and above the 4GB of system RAM he has. That means that his graphics will not leach off the system RAM while running games, it is entirely discrete. Discrete graphics in a laptop is, in itself, high-end from a laptop perspective.

EDIT: A side note, video card RAM is never a primary concern since Nvidia tends to slap a ton of RAM on even its lower end cards. (A sales gimmick) The chip-set is what does the majority of the graphic cards work and it is what makes or breaks performance. The 415M is a decent mobile card imo.

-sky Laughing



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14 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:06 pm

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sky wrote:
Squ1d Nuts wrote:Video card only has 1GB of RAM so unless you're not planning on playing games other than browser games, I'd suggest something with a bit more.

Other than that, it's not that bad

Actually 1GB RAM on a graphics card is very good. An example of this is the Radeon 5850's, I run two of these in crossfire and it was top of the line roughly 6 months ago.

That 1GB is over and above the 4GB of system RAM he has. That means that his graphics will not leach off the system RAM while running games, it is entirely discrete. Discrete graphics in a laptop is, in itself, high-end from a laptop perspective.

-sky Laughing

Most PC games nowadays will not run lag free with that little.. I had 1GB on my old laptop and it made me want to shoot myself.

I wouldn't go with Radeon anyway - you can find NVIDIA cards that perform better yet for a cheaper price. If you're refering to Crossfire the game, the detail level on that game is very low. Try playing MW2 or any Multi-Platform game on the PC and you'll understand what I'm saying

15 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:25 pm

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I feel you are referring to system RAM and Graphics card RAM as the same thing. They are not.

My laptop has 512mb of graphical RAM as well as 4GB of system RAM (the same as the setup listed above), it can run the games you mentioned without out any problems. I commonly play Runescape (of course), Starcraft 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2 / Black-Ops, and a slew of others...

I do not agree with your opinion on Nvidia. That is not to say they are not good, but ATI cards are very good and affordable as well. In fact the 5800 series was killing Nvidia 6 months ago.

They are competitors and flip flop back and forth as to who is better. If Nvidia was #1 why would anyone buy ATI? I am not taking a side, just simply pointing out that both companies produce killer cards and which ever is better, for the most part, comes down to when you are buying or, if your stubborn, personal preference.

But I digress, the RAM he has is 4GB that is very standard from a gaming laptop stand point.

Here is a gaming laptop from Alienware that is similar to what Fidde has described:
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Despite its price every review is pleased with its gaming performance.

-sky Laughing




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16 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:34 pm

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sky wrote:I feel you are referring to system RAM and Graphics card RAM as the same thing. They are not.

My laptop has 512mb of graphical RAM as well as 4GB of system RAM (the same as the setup listed above), it can run the games you mentioned without out any problems. I commonly play Runescape (of course), Starcraft 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Modern Warfare 2 / Black-Ops, and a slew of others...

I do not agree with your opinion on Nvidia. That is not to say they are not good, but ATI cards are very good and affordable as well. In fact the 5800 series was killing Nvidia 6 months ago.

They are competitors and flip flop back and forth as to who is better. If Nvidia was #1 why would anyone buy ATI? I am not taking a side, just simply pointing out that both companies produce killer cards and which ever is better, for the most part, comes down to when you are buying or, if your stubborn, personal preference.

But I digress, the RAM he has is 4GB that is very standard from a gaming laptop stand point.

Here is a gaming laptop from Alienware that is similar to what Fidde has described:
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Despite its price every review is pleased with its gaming performance.

-sky Laughing



You're not understanding what I'm saying.

What I am saying is from personal experience, not from what I've read or been told. I know computers very well so no, I am not confusing the two, thank you.

This is going to be my last post in this thread as I can easily see this turning into an argument. I have never had good experiences with ATI's cards and have never had a complaint about NVIDIA. That's my opinion, just as yours is your own. Please understand that not everyone thinks the same way you do.

As for your gaming experience, I'm not sure if you're just pulling that out of your ass trying to prove your point by saying that those games work, but I've tried playing those exact games along with others on my old laptop and had nothing but problems. Whether or not it was the graphics card that was causing the problems or the hardware, it greatly influenced my decision about ATI.

Ugh, clicking that link makes me want to puke. Dell is going to drive Alienware into the ground ._.

17 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:51 pm

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I as well will leave it at this post and let others chime in if they would like to. I had no intention to argue (simply discuss), nor attack you personally. I felt I was quite passive while laying down facts and backing them up. I was for the most part expressing my opinion and while I acknowledge yours, it is not mine.

As for the RAM confusion, this is a forum and sometimes the initial meaning can be lost. I apologize for that.

However, please refrain form using choice words as a way to demean my intelligence as well as my opinion. It is hypocritical in its own right considering the context of your post. I don't agree with you insinuating I am lying about what I have said.

On another note I totally agree with your opinion on Alienware actually. Dell has slowly made that company crash and burn similar to how HP burned down VooDoo PC's. It was just a good reference page.

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18 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:12 am

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19 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:10 am

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Dell is going to drive Alienware into the ground

I loled.

You're trying to say that a computer company which makes computers that basically destroy them self if you try to change anything about them is going to beat the company that sells the highest spec computers.

Secondly, I don't think you know what you are talking about with the RAM of the graphics card. The top range graphics cards only have 1GB RAM, you find me one with more and I'll show you the price. The RAM works like this, while using low level graphics requirements, the graphics card will simply use the RAM of the graphics card leaving the other 4GB to the CPU. When running high intensity graphics the graphics card will use the designated graphics card RAM and any extra it needs from the 4GB of RAM. However that's only going to happen on the rarest of rare occasions as 1GB is more than enough to run any game, 512 can run the top current games without the need for any other RAM.



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20 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:04 am

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Got scared first, but then i saw it didn't mention Asus.



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21 Re: How good/bad is this laptop? on Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:51 am

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Yeah I know Fidde, I just thought I would mention it in case you had changed your mind on which Laptop you were going to get and were looking at others.

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