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1 RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:46 pm

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It's sad but it had to happen eventually.
Jagex are doing everything they said they wouldn't. They had valid points and argued strongly about the stuff they wouldn't do, and now they're doing it.
*Free Trade
*Wildy
*No Chat Filter
*Bonus xp (practically giving away xp)
*Skills get easier every month
*and now, Voice Chat
They've said so many times they wouldn't be able to do voice chat because of the many problems it would cause..
Well if they do add this feature, they better increase the ignore list 10x.

Don't be surprised if they start selling gold or in-game items soon.

EDIT: oh, and voice chat is possibly going to cost money. seems like that's all they care about these days.



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2 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:03 pm

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3 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:45 pm

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'tis true. Jagex is using everything they have as a last resort, they know the game is dying.



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4 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:06 pm

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Yes Jagex has said those things. However, to be competitive in a market that once was merely Runescape, to a lesser extent, and Everquest, you need to add in features that people see as standards. Jagex has other companies turning out MMORPG styled games left and right and they all offer features like voice chat, bonus xp, and no profanity filter. (Sadly an RPG is very time consuming and playing more than 1 at a time is difficult, this makes competition even fiercer for developers.)

If Jagex didn't make these changes they would lose a lot of people. RuneScape has very much been deemed a children's game due to it lack of freedom in chat. They had good reason, but they have seen from other companies that PG content is still possible while allowing such freedoms. Given parental controls, and age restrictions.

I support there decisions as it may hopefully bring RuneScape up to par with what is now seemingly standard in a lot of other similar styled games.

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5 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:27 pm

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Runescape was more of an adulty game with the profanity filter, the children are who complained about the censors.
I think most of us who are to say 16+ were fine with the filter being there and not an option.

I think it is nearing to the end.



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6 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:05 pm

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I looked into it a bit, and since Feb 1st there have been 0 accounts banned due to RWT.

Some RWT deals have sold 10b+ at one time to a single person doing 5, 2b trades. They are still active and have not even received a warning. Perhaps Jagex is just stating that it's against the rules in order to scare people off and discourage it instead of banning people for it. After all, the sellers of the GP are often multiple member account paying people and believe it or not, most (95%+) of the money they sell is legit.



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7 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:29 pm

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Either that, or they're planning to 'finish' it, i.e. cut off all updates cold turkey, tie off quests etc. and just move on, using their money on other projects that will continue growing (since Runescape seems to have hit it's limit at that).



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8 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:39 pm

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Dug around some more.

Check this out

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9 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:52 pm

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Is that the Wildy Wall one?



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10 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:08 am

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No war, that happens daily. What happens is JAGEX will update the cache stored on your computer for various reasons and you can't say no pretty much because when you create an account its in the terms and conditions.

They change the cache more frequently now and it causes problems with how the bots are coded because they refer directly to the cache to do certain processes. Obviously the bots makers are aware how often the cache changes and will set the bot program to check for an update everyday at a rough time when the cache has been updated and messed with so the bots can continue to run.

If you use Swift Kit they do a similar thing. When you login it will check for various updates to cache's and stuff because of various updates to parts of their server and also on the RuneScape server.

I am not in favour of them running a Voice Chat although I did mention that I sometimes used one. The price is not a problem, its the ability to deal with trolls and such. If your on Zybez Ventrilo, there is generally someone around who can kick people and the community is small but if you expanded that for the whole of RuneScape, thats a lot of account and maybe not enough people with right to kick. We also don't know how you would log into it and who would have kicking rights, How would they show who was a P Mod and who wasn't? or would regulars get the opportunity to have kicking rights and stuff. It's just too complicated for them to use right now. Maybe if they integrated Voice Chat into the upcoming FourthScape after Stellar Dawn but not now, it just wouldn't work.

I do feel that RuneScape is going down hill lately but I'm holding out that they said this year would have a lot of really good updates that were overdue and there would be something for everyone this year. I'm hoping they can cover up the Free Trade and the Wilderness with other updates that might draw people away from PKing and just leave a small minority.

With regards to the bots. I have reported a good dozen or so sites in the last two weeks on the "Report Scam Websites V2" thread on the RuneScape Forums and all of those have been around for ages. I'm really hoping that they are realising what are the big contenders of RWT and start taking action. Yeah...Fine...Taking legal action will cost JAGEX money which they will lose and then lose more to the lower number of bots but most big websites offer RWT for most MMO's so its in their interest to take action first.


Dallas, Mind telling me your source for the fact that 0 accounts have been banned due to RWT? Because atm, I would possibly put that number at a single digit between 1-9 rather than 0 >.<

11 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:50 am

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I'm friends with the Smokin Mils leader, a man who runs a RWT taxed company and has the resources to find such statistics.



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12 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:52 am

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Well, they say that there are good updates every year. They've been saying that since 2006

And 1-9 and 0 aren't that great numbers either way.



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13 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:12 am

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Don't go.



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14 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:08 am

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You mean Mr J Rune Dallas. Don't worry...I'm a member on their forums and have merched with them in the past. I know all about their Black Market =p

15 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:34 pm

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TO be honest, I've been losing interest in RS, I've hardly played in the past month. And the filter change, sure it's not that bad, but it's just abused by kids. But Jagex are just going down hill, I got on and did the elemental workshop quest and enjoyed it, but then I just left again when I was done.

They just really seem to only be in it for the money now. And that just makes me not want to give them my money. I'm not quitting yet, but I'm actually starting to consider it.



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16 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:09 pm

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I'm with you 414.

I losing my will to live on this game.



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17 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:25 pm

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everyones qutting Sad



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18 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:43 pm

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Warillusen wrote:I'm with you 414.

I losing my will to live on this game.



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19 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:30 pm

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Mr V wrote:You mean Mr J Rune Dallas. Don't worry...I'm a member on their forums and have merched with them in the past. I know all about their Black Market =p

What is this? Racist Markets? Tsk tsk :shock:



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20 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:04 pm

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Yeah the game has been dieing out very rapidly these last few years... that's probably why they're adding all these updates to try and get more people to join, to make it look like Runescape has actually changed..into an improved game,, which the followers will find out that it hasn't.



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21 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:48 pm

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I think everyone realizes that it's going to happen eventually, just not many people want to face it

I skimmed through the thread so sorry if anything I say has already been mentioned - I'm tired from packing and am not functioning at 100% yet

People have been saying Runescape is coming to an end for years - I honestly doubt it'll ever happen. JaGeX is a huge coporation that employs a good amount of people and brings in a lot of profit each year. People are money hungry, Runescape is a money cow, therefore as long as there's a want for money, it'll still be around

I don't think you have to worry about the things in the original post as much as you'd need to worry about JaGeX developing a newer game to compete with other MMORPGs.. That's when Runescape would lose a fair amount of players. Right now I can comfortable assume that 50-70% of the people online at any given time are botting since the freetrade update. People making throwaway accounts to bot on then transferring the money over to their main - my friend asked me to log onto his main the other day to transfer botted stuff over to it and I said hell to the fuck no and reported him

JaGeX will never be able to catch all the botters - I don't fucking care if they promise that their new software is up to date and can determine if people are botting or not - it's complete bullshit. Botting clients are another huge market and there's money to be made there - same as with JaGeX running Runescape, money to be made. People are just going to make better and more efficient bots that are going to be harder and harder to detect. JaGeX needs to finally realize that...

I can't say all this and criticize them for what they're doing - considering the blows they've taken the last couple years, JaG is still doing pretty fucking good imo

I think that JaGeX should follow what IJJI did in their fight against cheaters/bots. Make the game client a closed source application that you need to download in order to play and have some sort of Gameguard in place that determines whether or not people are using third party software - IJJI's hack detection software is incredibly advanced and the hacker scene on their games has disappeared completely


ok I don't even know what in all I just typed in this post because I've been multi tasking the whole time writing it so I'm just gonna click send now and go to bed



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22 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:08 pm

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IJJI doesn't allow Vent to function properly, that's the problem I have with them, other than that IJJI is ok.

Though Alt-Tabbing is also shit annoying because it just closes your game and calls you a hacker aswell.



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23 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:27 am

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Warillusen wrote:IJJI doesn't allow Vent to function properly, that's the problem I have with them, other than that IJJI is ok.

Though Alt-Tabbing is also shit annoying because it just closes your game and calls you a hacker aswell.

Yeah, a lot of people use xfire with IJJI instead of Vent



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24 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:22 am

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Xfire shit me off when I got it once, it manifested itself almost like spyware and refused to completely leave me computer whenever I tried to get rid of it.



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25 Re: RuneScape is coming to an end on Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:06 am

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Just thought i'd post something relatively interesting;

Spoiler:
Head of Online Strategy
Jagex

Privately Held; Computer Games industry

November 2009 – Present (1 year 5 months)

- Appointed to build up and develop Marketing function within Jagex
- Established matrix structure of product/brand management and service functions including affiliate mgmt, PR, community, web, email, SEM & display advertising
- Responsible for multi-million £ marketing budget
- Responsible for the global marketing strategy
- Responsible for P&L of 3rd party publishing title War of Legends
- Defined key performance and funnel metrics for daily/weekly reporting and A/B testing
- Liaising with product and community team ensuring maximum effect of marketing around acquisition, retention and win-back
- Part of senior management team

That is the person responsible for advertising Runescape, at Jagex, as far as I can understand.

When you look at what he has to do, you see.. "Responsible for multi-million £ marketing budget" I would have thought.. if he was doing that, that should be his "main" job, rather than.. well, you can see what else he does.

I posted this, because I remember.. when I started Runescape, you would see.. maybe.. 100 level 3s, all starting together. (on the training island) and, well.. not that I have checked recently, but I never see any level 3s in lummy. (New to the game) In my opinion, this is down to multiple reasons; One being the lack of advertising. Which gives off the impression that.. they want to wind down Runescape, and move onto newer projects I.E. Mechscape/whatever it's called now. (Which then leads onto the lack of decent updates..)

Just In my opinion. ;D



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